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What Questions does Socrates try to answer? |
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Why do men behave justly? Fear of social punishment? Fear of divineness? |
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Two Challanges facing Socrates in answering questions: |
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define justice & define it to show that it is worthwhile |
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hormany structured in a political body. |
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The three classes are right and doing only the function assigned to them. "Justice is a principle of specialization" |
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Three Classes of Kallipolis |
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Producers, Auxileries, Rulers |
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Rational, Spirited, Appetite |
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Rational Part of soul is responsible for: |
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seekin truth and our philisophical indications. |
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Spirted Part of soul is responsible for |
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Desires honor and holds our feelings of anger and indignation |
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Appeitive part of soul is responsible for: |
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lust after most things, but mostly money |
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parrallels between city and soul: |
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Rulers: Rational and strive for widsom Auxileries: Spirted, Courageous Producers: appeities |
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Appeitite: 3 types of desire |
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Contains nessicary desires, unnessicary desires and unlawful desires |
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guardian is also known as |
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Pleonexia & Thrasymachus: |
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"desire to have more" he says that justice is nothing more than an unnatural restrant on our natural pleonexia. |
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Polemarchus view on justice |
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Doing enemies harm and friends good (but Socrates aruges you can't know what your "friends" or enemies are always doing and real motives etc. .. how do you know they are your friends?) |
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Cephlaus definition of Justice |
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Living up to legal obligation and being honest |
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thrasymarchus definition of justice: |
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he is a sophist and they do not believe in justice he says it is the advantage of the stronger. |
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temperance, moderation, sef-control |
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concept socrates is trying to find. . . what is jsutice? |
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"friends possess everything in common" |
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Adeimantus: unjust is ________ (happier or unhappier) |
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happier, better off without justice |
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After Book I Socrates, Adeimantus & Glaucon agree that justice = |
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Gynges ring and happiness: |
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Although he stole, seduced etc, he was still happy because no one knew it was him . |
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the unjust, but happy man |
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Four virtues to be found: |
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wisdom, courage, moderation, and justice |
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Wisdom is found with the- |
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everywhere, each have hand in what everyone is doing. |
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Courage is found with the- |
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as a background criteria that allows other virtues. Don't interfere with anyone elses job |
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place you go when you die |
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Jonah's father; truth & fear |
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endowed with the spirit of |
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"Jonah son of Amittai" translates to: |
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The dove endowed with the spirit of truth & fear |
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Place where God told Jonah to go means "all thats bad in the world" shithole |
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SW of Spain, Jonah is going here to get away from god, symbol for end of world. jews fleeing from God |
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